Clash between Ugo Mattei and David Parenzo: "Those of Macron and the 'willing' are clownish". VIDEO

A heated debate between jurist Ugo Mattei and journalist David Parenzo on the role of international diplomacy in global conflicts. Mattei openly criticized the French initiative and the so-called "willing" led by Emmanuel Macron, calling them "buffoonery". The jurist also expressed doubts about the way in which war is narrated, criticizing the binary logic between aggressor and aggressed: "I grumble because as long as we analyze the facts based on the old story of good and bad, we're not going anywhere". Parenzo responded provocatively: "So it's Trump's merit?", triggering a back-and-forth that divided the public and ignited the online debate.